Catriel Lev asked me to post this here:
DON'T BE FRIGHTENED!
THIS IS A LONG Posting, but ITS MAIN POINT IS SUMMARIZED in the following two paragraphs:
I am starting an initiative to rid our neighborhood of its intolerance and violence problems; I call it the Vaad LeHatzneah Lechet im Elokecha (הועד להצנע לכת עם אלקיך), based upon the verse in Michah (6:8) – but the name is much less important than the goal! I am not naïve; the problems may never be totally eradicated, but if we make that our goal, we should be able to reach something like 90-99% success over the course of the years that this initiative will have to operate! We need the participation of many, many people from each of the communities which comprise Ramat Bet Shemesh – so this initiative is for all of you: Dati, Chareidi, Masorati and Chiloni!
I urge everyone else who has the courage and the determination to work with me to build a coherent non-violent solution to contact me by Email (clev@actcom.com) so that we can set up a LONG list of MANY people who will be willing to stand up and be counted to stop the Chillul Hahshem.
Some DETAILS of This Initiative:
First of all, this type of initiative will clearly need years to turn back the unhealthy tide that has caused so much Chillul Hashem and grief to residents of our city! I am looking for other like-minded people from Bet Shemesh FROM ALL COMMUNITIES – we can only do this with serious public Chareidi community participation as well as participation of the other communities in our fair city! I am NOT looking for people who want REVENGE or the like! We need people with the courage and the determination to work to build a coherent non-violent solution – and non-violent solutions almost always take more time to effect than violent ones!
I ask for people to have courage and determination because people have already been threatened with regard to these issues, and we can expect that there will be further threats (and perhaps physical attacks) as this initiative progresses. HOWEVER, I am certain that it behooves us to develop the courage and determination to take action, even if it entails some risk, so that we have a chance to "turn the tide" and not just leave our neighborhood open to more and more violence and intolerance!
We must pursue positive steps with calculated plans to make EVERYONE feel as welcome as possible in our community; and this means working out practical "programs" that will halt violence (or at least reduce it in the utmost) and will "force" violent types to find outlets for their nervous energy in activities that neither injure nor offend others. So this requires all of us to "step back" from our anger at the despicable actions which have occurred, and realize that those who have been performing these actions are also our fellow Jews, and that there are ways to direct them to non-offensive behavior. That they may deserve to be punished is beside the point – WHAT WE NEED IS A TRULY PLEASANT COMMUNITY ATMOSPHERE, so we also have to be ready to deal with the needs of the people who have been behaving offensively!
The most elementary part of a solution is having reasonable people from all communities unite for the common goal of eliminating violence as a way to deal with community issues. The vast majority of people from all communities are disgusted with the violence by "hooligans" that is besmirching the name of our city (at least, I believe that the vast majority thinks this way, and I sincerely hope that I am not being naïve in this belief), but this "silent majority" opinion has not yet coalesced into a form that can be used for positive action.
There are three basic points on which we must take positive action:
1. Getting everyone who disapproves of violence to refrain from any actions which might make the hooligans who commit violent acts appear to be celebrities. They have already become celebrities to a certain extent, and we must work on removing this celebrity status. This, of course, includes approaching Rabbis who have not yet opposed the violence and to show them how opposing the violence will improve the community (in addition to being required Halachically, as an EIDAH CHAREIDIT wall poster requiring a cessation of the violence emphasizes – see http://rbsanews.blogspot.com/2007/07/kol-koreh-against-violence.html, which was publicized on this blog spot), and how they can utilize the energies of these hooligans for positive activities (see point #3).
2. Getting the hooligans to cease violence. This is, of course, extremely difficult; but enough strong community social pressure can produce the desired result! This will probably take years of repeated step-by-step social action: first, making community leaders truly aware that the vast majority oppose this hooliganism; second, convincing them that they can make a difference if they continually speak out against the violence (and showing the positivist attitude that even if it does not make an immediate impact the first time, it can have a cumulative effect if it is consistently followed up), third getting through to the hooligans themselves (most, or all, of whom are known in their communities).
3. Rehabilitating the hooligans (most, or all, of whom are known to participate in other activities [like "Tishes", and Hachnasot Sifrei Torah] in order to find "action"): This means having their communities develop programs which can channel the "nervous energy" which these hooligans put into violence, and use it for positive actions (there are some well known examples of this occurring). Perhaps the extremist communities need to provide a Simchat Torah-like affair once a month, and maybe even many of these people who are at present besmirching the good name of Bet Shemesh can be "roped into" activities that help the community (building rooms for Talmudei Torah, helping people build Succot, bringing food to the elderly and the sick, helping people get to hospitals when necessary, etc.). Their community leaders who know them should be trying to channel that "nervous energy" which is often let out in unseemly manners, so that it is let out in ways that can make a positive contribution to the community.
I think that the community leaders who are not at present expressing themselves will NOT do what I suggest here unless there is serious social pressure, and sincere desire to change things among the "silent majority of peaceful Chareidim" (despite the almost certain knowledge that it will engender threats against them) along with the members of the other communities; and I hope that these step-by-step plans can turn around the situation eventually. There do not appear to be any easy solutions, but I have just outlined the skeleton of a coherent non-violent solution.
However, I am not naive – it will probably get worse before it gets better! This why I am appealing to reasonable people from all communities to Email me and let us begin serious POSITIVE action, and we can only do this with serious public Chareidi participation! I have spoken to some Chareidi Rabbis, and will speak to more, but they all seem to agree with me that the solution can only come from the grassroots average people having the courage to confront the situation and to make it clear that they will not tolerate violence and demand that all disagreements (whether they be ideological, Halachic or otherwise) be voiced without violence and with kavod for the other people involved.Let us attempt to "turn back the tide" of violence and to perform a true Kiddush Hashem before it is too late!
Bivrachah,
Catriel Lev
Telephone: 02-991-4332
Mobile Phone: 054-762-9332
Tuesday, July 31, 2007
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Hi
I am writing because I feel like you don't have proper information. I will start off by saying that I am a charadi American lady that lives near the stores and am proud to be part of my community. I in no way support violent behavior. neither me nor my husband are violent people. But I feel like I want to pose a question. Why is there no one saying its too bad there is such a chillul hashem, to see how far Am Israel has fallen, that women have lost all their self respect and are barely dressed ( now I am not talking about regular dati ladies with hats etc, you know what I mean. the ones with barely a shirt on) all you men know good and well you are not allowed to look at a lady like that. plain not allowed. Following the torah and our mesorah comes before feeling bad about hurting other peoples feelings ......
All my friends and neighbors feel the same way. It doesn't matter that this once was supposed to be a mixed neighborhood. IT ISN'T. It didn't happen! Look at the numbers. take a poll, call in all the buildings on the streets in rbs A around the stores and beyond. . Its all super charadi and its getting bigger and all the people who don't like it and cant appreciate it are moving out or want to move.
All the people that I know would really appreciate it if the people who would come to our neighborhood would have respect for us. People are yelling about how we don't have respect for other people. What about having some respect for us. It goes both ways. I feel bad for anyone who feels the need to show herself off for her self esteem. having self respect is real Jewish beauty. but that's their issue. please don't come here and make it our issue or our husband issue or avayra. people around here feel very passionate about it. And we all know how the people of rbs B feel and the kirya. Please don't waste your time and energy on this idea that isnt going to work. you sound like you want to accomplish great things for the klal and I am sure that you will hatzlach raba.
While I can understand your feelings about proper Kavod to the neighborhood on the part of others I take issue with your judgement of others.
I would venture to say that the majority of vistitors that are "less than dressed" are not doing this bkavana. We live in a very warm climate and these people dress to their comfort (albeit uncomfortable to us living here). They have not been taught and imbued with an understanding of tznius and proper dress(kol kvuda bas melech pnima). The Chazon Ish, Zt""l said (in the 1950s!) that the majority of not yet religious Jews have the status of tinok shenishba (ones who were taken captive at a young age).
I would surmise that the violent response that these people receive does not foster a desire to learn more about our Torah and Halacha.
Reav Aryeh Levine, Z''L, was very staunch in his Avodas HaShem. He was equally stringent (if not more so) in his Bein adom L'Chavero and brought many closer to HaShem and His Torah.
Let us follow the example of those who are unwavering in their devotion to HaKadosh Baruch Hu as well as their devotion to His children.
I am not following your post. I live in RBS A and I do not know of any violence in RBS A at all.
The only violence that I am aware of is in RBS B and an initiative in RBS A will have zero to no effect in RBS B. These guys are in their own world and do not care what we initiate.
In terms of making everyone feel welcome there is a problem in that in Israeli sociaty charadim don't feel comfortable around chilonim due to obvious reasons such as dress, chillul shabbos and negative influences on the children. Also Chilonim don't feel comfortable around Charadim due to their own list of reasons.
How do you plan to rectify this diffrence.
A better idea would be a major kiruv initiative which i think would have the full support of all the communities.
Good Luck!
ANNONYMOUS #2:
while you are correct that they are ignorant of tznius issues, does that force us to not be able to have a neighborhood with the atmosphere that we choose?
quite frankly if there is a sign asking people to be considerate of our feelings I don't know why it must be considered begrading. if you don't want to appreciate our feelings why must we be sensitive to yours?
I remember once many years ago my parents came for a visit to Israel. while shopping in meah shearim my mother wanted to see the back streets. although my parents are chareidy and were definitely dressed accordingly, when my father saw a sign saying that this is residential neighborhood and not a tourist site, he refused to enter.
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