There are plans for a new Mercaz Mischari right next to RBSA down from where Nachal Ayalon is about 10 minutes away.
Sources say its supposed to contain a new Michlala, New Iriyah Office buildings, A large Simcha Hall and more!
Is this the worst or greatest thing ever to happen to RBSA?
Will we turn into downtown Manhattan during rush hour?
What will be with real estate property values will they rise or fall?
Greater Beit Shemesh with over 80,000 people and growing needs a Hospital. "Would you support the building of a full service Hospital in place of a Merkas Mischari?
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COULD BE GOOD, COULD BE BAD
depends if they build good roads to create good traffic flow, and ample parking to keep the cars where they should be. also depends upon the height and design of the buildings, and how much "greenspace" is left around.
last, depends whether they define it as shomer shabbat or invite riots to get it changed to be.
I have no objection to any of those things per se, I just want to preserve the 'small town' feel of our community.
B"H, finally a local simcha hall! Perhaps there might be a small inn nearby for out of town guests, too!
If we will FINALLY have our own post office it will be AMAZING!!!!!!
As long as the roads are built in proportion to the traffic expected in the long term.
I agree with miriam that we need to preserve the "small town" feel as well
Shalom Tal,
I think that signs in a neighborhood are fine as long as they are not offensive; and signs saying, "This is a Chareidi neighborhood – don't pass though here unless you dress as we demand," are an aggressive, offensive way to try to discourage people of other persuasions from staying in RBS Alef.
First of all, this is a mixed neighborhood, and people who live in houses near the shopping center have no right to impose their views on others who come there to shop. Also, if someone wishes to express a desire that people visiting this area dress more modestly, there are many ways to phrase that without being offensive and demeaning to others. An additional consideration is that many store owners in the Mercaz Mischari of RBS Alef are not in favor of any signs (including the smaller signs which they were "encouraged" to place at the entrances to their stores), but caved in to "untoward pressure" exercised upon them – many more people would complain about the signs that are being posted if they did not fear retribution by extremist elements.
There is no clear indication that any signs are necessary (and they certainly are not helpful); so it would be better for all concerned if the signs were not there – and it would be best if Chareidi community members would remove such signs on their own initiative, thus showing others that they are actively interested in promoting better relations within RBS. I am certain that everyone wants modest dress (including non-religious people, who may have a different definition of "modest" than we do), and that no one is coming to RBS deliberately dressed in an offensive manner. What is happening, though, is that people who don't share extremist Chareidi values (whether because they hold by Halachah without the Chumras that the extremists would impose, or whether because they do not observe some of the Mitzvot) are being offended by the offensive behavior of sign-posters and stores demanding women to wear skirts before entering. It behooves us to reverse this trend before it causes more Chillul Hashem.
As I see it, these considerations are what differentiate between Chillul Hashem and living in peace with one's neighbors (having a chance for Kiddush Hashem). I would expect all of these offensive things to be opposed especially by the Chareidi members of our community who want to promote good relations in our neighborhood, since these signs purport to speak in their names. If good people remain silent, it leaves the impression that only the loud aggressive members of the community represent the community.
Operations like the cleaning of graffiti from the walls are a step in the right direction, but it must be made clear that the RBS community simply does not approve of hooliganism.
On the flip side of this, the hooligans (who are generally well known in their communities) must be provided with "action" by their communities to replace the hooliganistic "action" which they find in throwing things at others and painting on walls. It is well known that the hooligans attend lots of other functions (like "Tishes", and Hachnasot Sifrei Torah) in order to find "action", their community leaders should channel them into activities that do not injure others and cause Chillul Hashem. This can be done if those community leaders both emphasize how Assur the hooliganistic activities are, as well as providing positive activities for these people (most of whom are not up to learning Torah for anything like a full day). Perhaps the extremist communities need to provide a Simchat Torah-like affair once a month, and maybe even many of these people who are at present besmirching the good name of Bet Shemesh can be "roped into" activities that help the community (building rooms for Talmudei Torah, helping people build Succot, bringing food to the elderly and the sick, helping people get to hospitals when necessary, etc.). Their community leaders who know them should be trying to channel that "nervous energy" which is often let out in unseemly manners, so that it is let out in ways that can make a positive contribution to the community.
There are some examples of people who found a way to channel this type of energy into a life-saving organizations or other community projects instead of causing everyone grief, and I hope that the leaders of communities in Bet Shemesh will also find ways to channel this type of energy in members of their communities into something much more positive.
Bivrachah
I am very pessimistic about the traffic issue, the iriyah built roads, then broke them to make traffic circles, then broke them again to make parking in ayalon and kishon, and all this and we still have horrible traffic congestion near the mercaz in RBSA, the new projects are going to be filled with new Olim Baruch Hashem who will add traffic.
Now this is going to bring even more traffic, where are they all going to shop & park?
I think that having the iriyah close is convenient, but I would rather see a post office branch finally open up here in RBSA.
Its a new Center of Town.
If one would have looked at the plans BEFORE the 1st house was put here in 1996 , he would have seen the plans for the new City center!!!
they were planned as part of the Bet-Shemesh Expansion 15+ years ago!!!
Go Hospital Go !! I very much support the building of a full service hospital !!
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